WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) appeared on Newsmax’s “Spicer and Co.” Wednesday evening to discuss how to counter the China threat without costly spending packages and how President Biden’s reversal of successful immigration policies led to a crisis on our southern border.

The full interview can be found here, and excerpts are below.

On effectively countering China: 

“I think one of many of President Trump's accomplishments is he did convince everybody that China was a real malign threat, and so there is broad bipartisan recognition to that fact and support for countering China. My problem with this bill is that once again, the first thought in just about everybody's mind here in Washington, D.C., in terms of how do you fix the problem is you throw money at it. I just don't believe that spending close to a quarter of a trillion dollars of money that we don't have, further mortgaging our children's future, is going to solve this problem.”

“Our big advantage against China literally is our private sector. It allocates capital more efficiently than essentially a planned economy, and here we're moving into a government industrial-type of policy. It's just simply not going to work and it's going to waste a quarter of a trillion dollars.” 

On Biden’s border crisis:  

“Since the first day of administration, if Trump was for it, they're against it. If Trump was against it, they’re for it. I mean, it really seems almost that simple and unfortunately that destructive. When you take a look at what they've done for example, the border — completely dismantled a successful set of policies that stopped the flow of unaccompanied children and family units exploiting our asylum laws.”

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